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		<title>By: erotikus</title>
		<link>http://counter-force.com/2008/12/19/children-schmildren/#comment-506</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 18:57:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[also if a kid is being self-injurious in the seclusion room, we are trained to physically restrain them until they are calm.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>also if a kid is being self-injurious in the seclusion room, we are trained to physically restrain them until they are calm.</p>
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		<title>By: erotikus</title>
		<link>http://counter-force.com/2008/12/19/children-schmildren/#comment-505</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 18:55:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You realize you were just writing about the kind of place I work at.   We have a seclusion room which looks pretty much like the picture you posted.  I&#039;ve actually had a kid wrap the draw string from his pants around his neck, threatening to kill himself while covered in his own feces.  Seclusion rooms are last resorts, only to be used when the kid is a danger to himself and the milieu.  Once in there, he needs to be constantly monitored with a designee checking periodically to make sure the staff supporting him is doing so safely.  Kids usually take their timeouts in the milieu and not the seclusion room, although they must demonstrate compliancy before exiting.  Strapping kids to tables is super invasive and hardly therapeutic.  One of my clients spent the first year of his life strapped down in a hospital.  Unable to bond with his mother, he still acts like an infant at age 11.  Sadly, in my experience, kids initiate insane behaviors because they want some form of proximity and contact from their caretakers since their life had been lacking in it and they don&#039;t know how to get it in positive ways.  I hate the idea of seclusion rooms and restraints and how it prepares these kids for prison, but I also see the necessity for them.  The only real solution I can think of is coming up with better mental health interventions.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You realize you were just writing about the kind of place I work at.   We have a seclusion room which looks pretty much like the picture you posted.  I&#8217;ve actually had a kid wrap the draw string from his pants around his neck, threatening to kill himself while covered in his own feces.  Seclusion rooms are last resorts, only to be used when the kid is a danger to himself and the milieu.  Once in there, he needs to be constantly monitored with a designee checking periodically to make sure the staff supporting him is doing so safely.  Kids usually take their timeouts in the milieu and not the seclusion room, although they must demonstrate compliancy before exiting.  Strapping kids to tables is super invasive and hardly therapeutic.  One of my clients spent the first year of his life strapped down in a hospital.  Unable to bond with his mother, he still acts like an infant at age 11.  Sadly, in my experience, kids initiate insane behaviors because they want some form of proximity and contact from their caretakers since their life had been lacking in it and they don&#8217;t know how to get it in positive ways.  I hate the idea of seclusion rooms and restraints and how it prepares these kids for prison, but I also see the necessity for them.  The only real solution I can think of is coming up with better mental health interventions.</p>
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		<title>By: Marco Sparks</title>
		<link>http://counter-force.com/2008/12/19/children-schmildren/#comment-504</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 03:28:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You should just issue them a flask of happy naptime juice.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You should just issue them a flask of happy naptime juice.</p>
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		<title>By: Peanut St. Cosmo</title>
		<link>http://counter-force.com/2008/12/19/children-schmildren/#comment-503</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 02:17:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[we all started reading it when we were holden&#039;s age and we felt the isolation that he did, and started to pick up on the stupid ways that people act and he seemed so much like someone we might actually want to be friends with and know personally. i know that&#039;s how i got so wrapped up in it, he didn&#039;t seem crazy, just an outsider. i can&#039;t believe more people don&#039;t get into this book....

as far as tranquilizer guns, don&#039;t you think that&#039;s a little extreme ben? i say just start putting shots of nyquil in their juice and let the little shit nap it off.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>we all started reading it when we were holden&#8217;s age and we felt the isolation that he did, and started to pick up on the stupid ways that people act and he seemed so much like someone we might actually want to be friends with and know personally. i know that&#8217;s how i got so wrapped up in it, he didn&#8217;t seem crazy, just an outsider. i can&#8217;t believe more people don&#8217;t get into this book&#8230;.</p>
<p>as far as tranquilizer guns, don&#8217;t you think that&#8217;s a little extreme ben? i say just start putting shots of nyquil in their juice and let the little shit nap it off.</p>
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		<title>By: Marco Sparks</title>
		<link>http://counter-force.com/2008/12/19/children-schmildren/#comment-502</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Marco Sparks]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 01:31:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think it says you&#039;re normal, or that whatever the fuck is exactly wrong with you, I have a touch of it too. That book was perfect in that you were in Holden&#039;s head, experiencing everything with him. Sure he was replaying the events for you, but during them, I doubt he felt &quot;I am slowly going a little bit nuts here,&quot; it just happened gradually, and it took us along with it. I don&#039;t know, I could be wrong. That&#039;s why I don&#039;t ever tell anybody anything. Cause once you do, you start missing everybody.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it says you&#8217;re normal, or that whatever the fuck is exactly wrong with you, I have a touch of it too. That book was perfect in that you were in Holden&#8217;s head, experiencing everything with him. Sure he was replaying the events for you, but during them, I doubt he felt &#8220;I am slowly going a little bit nuts here,&#8221; it just happened gradually, and it took us along with it. I don&#8217;t know, I could be wrong. That&#8217;s why I don&#8217;t ever tell anybody anything. Cause once you do, you start missing everybody.</p>
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		<title>By: Benjamin Light</title>
		<link>http://counter-force.com/2008/12/19/children-schmildren/#comment-501</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Benjamin Light]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 00:44:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Clearly those time out rooms needs restraining tables that the kids can be strapped to, so they can&#039;t hurt themselves while inside. Either that or the teachers should just carry tranquilizer guns to shoot them with if they&#039;re getting too uppity.

...ah Holden Caulfield. what does it say about me that I never found him the least bit odd or abnormal and only learned later that the book was about him going crazy?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clearly those time out rooms needs restraining tables that the kids can be strapped to, so they can&#8217;t hurt themselves while inside. Either that or the teachers should just carry tranquilizer guns to shoot them with if they&#8217;re getting too uppity.</p>
<p>&#8230;ah Holden Caulfield. what does it say about me that I never found him the least bit odd or abnormal and only learned later that the book was about him going crazy?</p>
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		<title>By: Peanut St. Cosmo</title>
		<link>http://counter-force.com/2008/12/19/children-schmildren/#comment-500</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 19:12:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Marco Sparks</title>
		<link>http://counter-force.com/2008/12/19/children-schmildren/#comment-499</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Marco Sparks]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 16:26:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wonderful as always, Peanut. No one could ever be sick of you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wonderful as always, Peanut. No one could ever be sick of you.</p>
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